Today we are going to imagine how other characters in the story think and feel.
In Google Docs, please do the following:
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
- Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
- Ernie the piano player’s (83-84)
- The funny looking guy or girl (85)
- Lillian Simmons (86-87)
- The navy guy, Commander Blop (86-87)
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
4. When you are finished, post your answer to our blog.
5. Then read two other posts and write what you liked and what you learned from them.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
ReplyDeleteLillian Simmons (86-87):
Holden wanted to say: “Why if you are interesting in my phony brother you don't call him? I think is not necessary to talk with me if you don't want to, I’m only waiting for Ernie. If you going to talk with me, Please can you invite me to take a sit because I'm really tired. Do you think I’m going to be up talking with you? And look I don’t have much time to hang out so, I got to go.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Lillian Simmons (86-87):
She think that Holden likes her because she asked him if he has a date or not. She wanted to be friendly with Holden just because she thought that he would tell his brother that he met her and she was nice.
Jesuka and Luisa :)
Albert Valerio
ReplyDeleteHua Chen
. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
Lillian SImmons (86-87)
2) Holden meets someone named Lillian Simmons in the hotel and she was blocking the way while they were talking to each other. He wasn’t in the mood (he wasn’t feeling right). He didn’t want to say that the waiter didn’t like her much, also the Navy guy didn’t like her much, even though he was dating her. And he (Holden) didn’t like her either. He didn’t say it because he didn’t want to hurt her feelings. Also, Holden didn’t want to stay with her because he didn’t feel like it so, in page 87 he says, “I was just leaving. i have to meet somebody”. He said that so he could leave without hurting her feelings.
3) Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Lillian Simmons.
She really likes Holden and she wants to know him more. In page 87 she says, “Holden, come join us. Bring your drink”. She was trying to get in good with Holden(Be more friends). I think that she is only doing that so that holden’d tell old D.B. about it.
Naing,Ye Htet
ReplyDeleteMeira, Renan
2. When Holden was in the cab, he started a discussion with the driver, Horwitz, about the lagoon in central park and his curiosity to know what happens with the ducks in the winter. Even though he wanted to have a long conversation and ask more questions he had to hold back because the cab driver was impatient and was starting to get upset.
3. The cab driver’s thoughts:
Why did that boy have so many questions about the ducks in the lagoon? What a moron!
He should be in bed instead of hanging around at night and going somewhere. What does these teenagers have in their heads nowadays? I shouldn’t care about that anyway. Actually, where did the ducks go in the winter? Is it true that the fishes are alive in freezing ice?
Hua chen
ReplyDeleteAlbert Valerio :D
Dear Jesuka and Luisa,
We think that your comments were really interesting, especially, where Holden says, "If you are going to talk with me, please can you invite me to take a sit because I'm really tired.
Question 3,we have diferent opinion about lillian thoughts because we think that she really loved Holden instead of sayin that Holden likes her.
Lin Yun Duo
ReplyDeleteDino Koljenovic
Holden takes a cab in order to get to Ernie. He kind of starts conversation with the taxi driver who’s name was Horowitz’. Holden says that Horowitz’ was much better taxi driver then the one he had before. After a while Holden asked him if he knows about the ducks in the Central park. The driver doesn’t answer on Holden’s question directly and he started telling him about the fish and what happens when they die. He asked Holden would mother nature take care of him in the winter if he was a fish or it would just let him die, Holden says that mother nature would help and Horowitz’ tells him that he is right and drives away. Holden was afraid if he keep talking and asking questions the driver would get crazy. Holden wanted to tell Horowitz’ that he is a touchy guy and whatever you say makes him sore and he starts to think about it.
Horowitz’ felt that Holden asked too many questions and was kind of annoying. Horowitz’ thought that Holden wasn’t the best student because he was going out late at night and he was thinking that Holden is stupid because he asks taxi drivers about the ducks in Central park. Horowitz’ felt that Holden didn’t get what he was saying so before he left he emphasis again the meaning of the fish and mother nature.
Lin Yun Duo
ReplyDeleteDino Koljenovic
Holden takes a cab in order to get to Ernie. He kind of starts conversation with the taxi driver who’s name was Horowitz’. Holden says that Horowitz’ was much better taxi driver then the one he had before. After a while Holden asked him if he knows about the ducks in the Central park. The driver doesn’t answer on Holden’s question directly and he started telling him about the fish and what happens when they die. He asked Holden would mother nature take care of him in the winter if he was a fish or it would just let him die, Holden says that mother nature would help and Horowitz’ tells him that he is right and drives away. Holden was afraid if he keep talking and asking questions the driver would get crazy. Holden wanted to tell Horowitz’ that he is a touchy guy and whatever you say makes him sore and he starts to think about it.
Horowitz’ felt that Holden asked too many questions and was kind of annoying. Horowitz’ thought that Holden wasn’t the best student because he was going out late at night and he was thinking that Holden is stupid because he asks taxi drivers about the ducks in Central park. Horowitz’ felt that Holden didn’t get what he was saying so before he left he emphasis again the meaning of the fish and mother nature.
Jiancheng Wu , Lissette Rodriguez
ReplyDelete2.Holden would say to Horwitz that he is insanity because how he can say that ducks can stay in a frozen solid lagoon when is winter time. thats something impossible. Also Holden thinks Horwitz is phony,because Holden knows Horwitz is sore. Even though Holden think Horwitz is not bad, he does not like him. And Holden just talks about joke, but Horwitz is very serious about that, that is so stupid. Horwitz is the touchiest guy Holden even met, everything you said made him sore.
3.Horwitz thinks holden is stupid because he is talking about stupid things, such like where were ducks go in the wintertime. Probably Horwitz thinks Holden has some mental problems because he thinks Holden is acting like a little kid asking those annoying questions.
Albert Valerio
ReplyDeleteHua chen
Dear Ye htet and Renan,
We think that your post is amazing because it really explains the point of view of each other (Holden and the cab driver).
Shanygne . Krastina
ReplyDelete1.Lillian Simmons (86-87)
Holden is in this bar called “Ernie’s“ where he sees his brother ex girlfriend and when he sees her he changed in a bad mood.Holden didn’t appreciate Lillian Simmons that much because he was having his moment and suddenly she came and started to talk with him .He didn’t want to talk with her sort of he wanted to tell her to leave him alone and go back to her date.He felt really mad because at the end he had to leave because of her.She sort of ruin his night. And he felt sorry for her because he thinks nobody really like her even her date.
Lillian Simmons point of view
2. Lillian Simmons was Holden’s brother ex girlfriend and she really like Holden she thinks Holden was a good boy and she always talk good about him and kind of care about him.Lillian felt good when she saw Holden after long time .And maybe she wanted Holden to tell his brother that he saw her and all.
jonnathan reyes
ReplyDeletenazabat choudry
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you feel
whan i wanted to do somethingand feeling but i didnt so my situation is the i wanted to pass all my classes because i wasnt passing the las period so i wwanted to pass and i was trying to do the best i can .But it didnt happen so i feel disapointed and i was almost crying (nazabat)
. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
_hey man do u know where the ducks goes when the winter comes …
(after all the conversation of the ducks)
can i ask u a goddam question ?
do you think being revell and bad and lazy is cool ?
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
any
Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
Poorkis he is young and he is living whitout his parents and thats so sad
also coming to a nigth club at this midnigt .thats bad for an age like him .Well if that would be my son i would give him a lot of support and help him to do better in live .any way i have to focuss o the road
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ReplyDeleteLillian Simmons2.Holden:Phony Lillian Simmons, it’s very uncomfortable for me to meet you here. What the badluck I have! What?How marvelous to see me?! Stop phony,please! You know what, that kill me!What do you want to know about D.B.? Why you mention him a lot? Why you ask somethingabout him when you meet me? I am not his secretary,so how do I know how’s he? What ismarvelous about working in Hollywood? Have you read the story that he wrote? That will kill you, Ipromise. Also, why do you introduce this stupid guy to me? It’s none of my business that who’she. I am not glad to know about him. I do not want to be there with you phony guys. Do not meetagain. Goodbye forever.3.Lillian Simmons:Poor little Holden, glad to see you again. You grow up a lot. You may think thatI am so bother,but I am not just say the things without thinking. It’s so cool to hear from you thatyour brother is working in Hollywood. You might be envy him, because I do, too. I am lookingforward to meeting you again. I hope that you become more mature when I meet you.
ReplyDeleteDear Dino...
ReplyDeleteI really like your comments for the question number two because your point really show how Holden felt . It was really good especially where you wrote “ would mother nature take care of him in the winter if he was a fish or it would just let him die”that make me think that the driver felt really unbearable. Good job : )
Daniel Velez , lin, liyan L5R-12
ReplyDelete11/29/2011 Ms.Mann
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
When Holden with Horowitz in the car, there was many times that Holden didn’t tell to Horowitz about his real thinking. when Holden asked him about the ducks, he was going to angry.Then Holden stopped talk with him a while. In this sudden,he thought Horowitz is a man who easy get angry and just because of trifles. but Holden didn’t tell him about it.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
We think that Horowitz was thinking that Holden is not too responsible because he was going out late at night and it makes him think that Holden is not a good student. Also when Holden ask to many questions he thinks that Holden is stupid because he is asking about the ducks to a driver and the driver get some of annoyed for that kind of questions.
Dear Dino and Lin Yun Duo
ReplyDeleteI think your second answer is true because i also thinks that Holden is making some stupids questions and that makes that the driver get annoyed.
Dear Hua and Albert,
ReplyDeleteI think your post is interesting because I can see the characteristic of Holden and Lillian.
Naing, Ye Htet
ReplyDeleteDear Daniel and Liyan,
I agree you that the cab driver is getting upset because Holden is always asking the stupid questions about the ducks in the lagoon.
Dear Ye htet and Renan,
ReplyDeleteI think your post is interesting because you really use the creativity to explain the POV of each
Dear Daniel and Liyan,
ReplyDeleteI am interesting about your post that we have same one and you really create a good characteristic
jessuka and luisa
ReplyDeletei like that poster becqause he is really telling what he wanted to say
Albert Valerio
Hua Chen
i like that because i like i and thats it its a cool coment
Rookhsana Abreen
ReplyDeleteMin Sun
Lillian Simmons (86-87)
When Holden is in the Ernie’s,he meets Lillian Simmons.She tries to have a conversation with Holden and always asks Holden something,but Holden does not want to talk to her angymore and he said he would leave.From that we can see Holden does not like her and stay with her.And he also thinks that nobody likes her,even though she had dating or that kind of things.
Lillian Simmons likes holden and she always talks to Holden and wants to get attentions from him.She think Holden is a nice guy and she wants to know about Holden.She also thinks that she was a nice person and everybody would like her, of course Holden did.
Dear Huiyu
ReplyDeleteI like your post because it's a kind of funny and interesting.I know Holden's thinking in a different ways.I really like it.
Before Holden meet the driver he was feeling lonely and depress and he was wishing that he could go home and talk for a while with his little sister. when he meet the cab driver he start to feel that the cab driver was a good person sometime that its very unusual in Holden. After Holden start to know more the cab driver, he start to think that he maybe know about the ducks but he dint. the only thing that the cab driver know about was the fish.When the cab driver start to talk about the fish he start to think that he is sort f wear but he dint told him
ReplyDeleteWhen Holden start to ask the cab driver about the dusk he look at him like “ why are you asking me about the dusk in the park, why is asking so many question and that he should be sleeping expect of playing around.He also think that Holden is a strange kid.
Naing,Ye Htet
ReplyDeleteMeira, Renan
I really like yours because it express very clearly how Holden and that cab driver feels.
good job guys:)
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ReplyDeleteTsotie Melly Mervine
ReplyDeleteAmanda quitchimbo
The funny looking guy or girl
When Holden was in Ernie’s club, Some people which he called” Funny looking guy and funny looking girl”, were sitting right to his left and they were having a conversation .Holden felt really sorry for the funny looking guy because he didn’t know how to make a girl have a good time. Holden wanted to say to the funny looking guy that what he’s saying is not interesting. That funny looking girl wasn’t interested and she was kind of bored. He wanted to say to the funny looking guy that he’s a jerk and he doesn’t know how to make a girl have a good time on a date. But he didn’t say nothing because he was afraid the funny guy might blame him for intervening in their conversation.
The funny looking guy was thinking that their conversation was so interesting that Holden was interested in. He thought Holden had nothing to do in his life and the only thing he does is sneak around, listen to people’s conversation and perhaps go to tell other people. He had nothing else to do beside wander around.
Rihab Elkharraz
ReplyDeleteSohee kim
2-Houwitz’ the cab driver;
‘’Oh’’ I said. I let it drop. I was afraid he was going to crack the damn taxi up or something.Besides, he was such a touchy guy, it wasn’t any pleasure discussing anything with him.’’
Holden thought that the cab driver was a touchy guy and it wasn’t any pleasure discussing anything with him, the confusing thing is Holden cared about the taxi driver he asked him while he asked him to drink something somewhere, which shows that Holden had a lot to tell the driver but he couldn’t
3-Lillian Simmons
Old Lillian Simmons that’s how Holden called her. ‘’ I don’t really like Holden the little moron, phony guy , even he’s young he knows a lot of things, but he’s dump in so many situations he thinks i like him but I just wan to know what’s going on with his older brother. he’s for sure going to tell me the truth .little Holder ’’
lin， liyan
ReplyDeleteDear Dino and Lin Yun Duo
I think your answer is good because i also think that Holden made some stupid questions and that makes that the driver became angry.
Dear Hua and Albert,
I think your answer is interesting because you guys show the characteristic of Holden and Lillian. and i really like it!
1.Once time it impressed me strongly.I was going to strike up conversation wiht a girl after school end but suddenly he boyfriend appeared...
ReplyDelete2. Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
Before Holden meet the driver he was feeling lonely and depress and he was wishing that he could go home and talk for a while with his little sister. when he meet the cab driver he start to feel that the cab driver was a good person sometime that its very unusual in Holden. After Holden start to know more the cab driver, he start to think that he maybe know about the ducks but he dint. the only thing that the cab driver know about was the fish.When the cab driver start to talk about the fish he start to think that he is sort f weard but he dint told him
3.Damn! This guy is a really moron!What the hell he wants to talk about ,just the f***ing ducks or what else,so painful to stay with him
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ReplyDeleteMohammed Rahman
ReplyDeleteL5R-78
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
=> when i had a cricket game in after school but i couldn’t play that game because my teacher said if you want to pass this class you have to come to the after school and i was almost crying.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
=> When Holden was in the cab with driver horwitz. he started a discussion with the horwitz about the lagoon in central park and his curiosity to know what happens to the ducks in the winter. But he wanted to have a long conversation and ask more questions about the lagoon to hold back because the cab driver was impatient and was starting to get upset.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
=> Horwitz thinks holden is stupid because he is talking about stupid things, such as where the ducks go in the winter time and about the lagoon in the central park. Horwitz get upset and horwitz thinks Holden has some mental problems because he thinks Holden is acting like a little kid asking those stupid questions.
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteWell a time that i wanted to do something but i couldn’t or didn’t was when i was in my country, i wanted to go to a party but i couldn’t go cause i had a family reunion and at the same time was the party, but i wanted to go to the reunion too so it was kind of confuse, finally i ended up going to the reunion.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
Ernie the piano player’s (83-84)
The funny looking guy or girl (85)
Lillian Simmons (86-87)
The navy guy, Commander Blop (86-87)
Lillian Simmons:
All of a sudden this girl came up to me and said, ‘’Holden Caulfield!’’ her name was Lilliam Simmons. My brother D.B. used to go around with her for a while. She had very big knockers. ‘’Hi’’ I said. I tried to get up, naturally, but it was some job getting up, in a place like that. She had some Navy officer with her that looked like he had a poker up his ass.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Lillian Simmons: I think she thinks Holden’s a good friend she was being nice to him so either way both of them where getting along.
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteI have this experience in my life. My friends asked me to play with them,but I really did not want to go.I just wanted to stay home.I thought they would felt I am not friendly. I felt embarrass.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
Holden takes a cab in order to get to Ernie.He had conversation with the driver named Horowitz.Holden thought he was a much better guy the the other driver he`d had. Holden wanted to know about the ducks and he asked Horowitz this question,but Horowitz did not know and get sore about it. Holden stopped having conversation with him. Because Holden was afraid Horowitz was going to crack the damn taxi up or something.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Lillian Simmons (86-87)
I think Lillian thought what happened to Holden,why was he here in this time. She wanted to talk with Holden. Maybe she liked Holden .
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteWhen my mom was annoyed,i could not do something that i wanted to do.
For example,when i failed the test , i did not tell my mom because she was angry about that.And i felt very scared and afraid that mom’s annoyed expression.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
Ernie the piano player’s (83-84)
Situation: When i came in Ernie,the piano player was playing the piano.All the people ware lousy and shoving before he played.However,after he was playing,the whole people were silent.He made some mistakes while playing.He was putting all these dumb, show-offy ripples in the high notes.And when he finished,everybody was mad and crazy.They clapped their head off and laughed like the morons in the movies that is not funny.And the player also gave a humble,phony row.That’s killed Holden.
Feelings about the player: Holden felt that this is a very phony for the people who listened the music and laughed like hyenas in the movies.He was hate to the humble row.Also he felt sorry about the player when he finished because he did not know where he was wrong or right.
WHY: Because Holden thought he was old and poor that he did not want to say something sad that was bad for his job.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
Horowitz thought Holden liked a madman that was killed him.The question was confused him and he thought this is a crazy question because nobody would care about the wild ducks.That’s made him get sore about it.
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ReplyDeleteMohammed Rahman
ReplyDeleteL5R-78
Dear Daniel and Liyan,
I agree you that the cab driver is getting upset because Holden is always asking the stupid questions about the ducks in the lagoon.
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeletewhen i wanted pass my english regent last semester but i couldn’t pass it because i dind’t study enough to pass it.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
when Holden was asking about the ducks in the park to Horowitz’ the cab driver the cap driver said “why is he asking many questions” so holden stopped talking with the cap driver for a while.in this sudden holden though that the cap driver is easy to get angry..
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Horowitz thinks that holden is not responsible with himself because he is out late of his home at night so it makes horowitz think that holden is a bad student. Also the cap driver think that holden is a stupid guy because he was asking to him about the ducks.
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeletewhen i was a child ,i always watching the piano show through the TV. i am envious of the girls who can piano. i imagine i would also can plat the piano on the stage someday .but at that time ,my parents are poor ,they can’t afford to the cost about i learn piano.so i didn’t told my parents i want to playing the piano.
2.
Lillian Simmons (86-87)
Holden met a girl who name Lillian Simmons ,she is Holden’s brother D.B’s ex-girlfriend.
Holden thinks she is phony ,Holden didn’t like her .Holden thinks the reason she invited him is Lillian Simmons want to know something about his brother.Holden didn’t say his really feeling because Holden respect her ,he didn’t want t o hurt her .so Holden told her he has a date with other person,he has to go .
3.
* Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
in the chapter 12 ,Holden took a cab whose driver ‘s name is Horowitz.Holden talk about where is the duck going in the winter with him .maybe Horowitz thinks Holden is a crazy man ,why he need to know that ,i am not a biologists,why he asked me this question ,This is not fun at all! he never learn somethig about that before ? he is a stupid guy!
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteWhen someone asked me to somewhere or did something with them,but I really didn’t interest in it, and I wasn’t in the mood. But I didn’t reject them, even though I wanted to. I don’t want them to feel disappointed.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
Ernie the piano player’s (83-84)
The funny looking guy or girl (85)
Lillian Simmons (86-87)
The navy guy, Commander Blop (86-87)
The character I choose is Ernie the piano player’s. When Holden went to the club, he saw Ernie was playing piano, and every body clap when he finished, Ernie turned around and gave a bow, at this moment, Holden thought he is very phony, I think Holden wanted to tell him that he’s very phone, but he didn’t do that because he think that’s not all Ernie fault.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Horowitz’ the cab driver
If I am Horowitz, and I set out a passenger like Holden, and he always ask me where the ducks goes, I would feel he was really vexing, and I don’t understand why he ask that kind of question. Also, Holden is not a good guy, because he looks like a teenager, but he was go out to the club in the midnight.
Dear Min
ReplyDeletei agree with you ,because i have the same opinion with you .Holden didn’t like her,and he thinks nobody would like her .but Lillian Simmons likes Holden and she likes talks to Holden .even she thinks Holden has a little like her .
Dear Daniel,
i like your comment about the cab driver Horowitz.Holden thinks Horowitz was a touchiest guy ,because he is very irritable. and Holden also is a phony man because he asked Horowitz the stupid question ,then made Horowitz became angry.
dear:jiancheng
ReplyDeletei like your post because i can see the different ways that we have to understand the story
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was in Grade 2,one of my classmates lost a watch in the classroom.My teacher said that I stole it.In fact,I didn’t.But my teacher never listen to me.She said she sure that I am the thief.So I just give up to defend for myself.I felt angry and wronged.
2.Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
The character I want to choose is Ernie the piano player.When Ernie was playing piano,Holden thought that Ernie is phony and likes to show off.But he didn’t say that to Ernie.Because Holden thought that wasn’t all his fault.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Horowitz’ the cab driver.
Horowitz:That night,Holden is the person who I set out.He asked me several stupid questions about the ducks.I guess that he gets in some trouble.Maybe there is some problems between his family and him.Or he just ran away from the school. Otherwise he could not still out so late and invite me to drink.I think he felt very lonely.
Dear Yanxi,
ReplyDeleteI like your post,because I agree with your thoughts.I learned that why Holden didn't say to Ernie that he is phony is because Holden did not want to say something sad that was bad for his job.
Dear Daniel,
ReplyDeleteI like your post.because I know more characters about Holden from your ideas.
Dear Corayma
ReplyDeleteI like your posts. It tell us the details about the story. And we can learn something from different ways.
Dear Mohammed
I like yours .It really express the real thoughts about Holden.
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteAns:- When I came to USA, I wanted to have network in my desktop or pc but I couldn’t because of my mom. She told me that if i have net in home then I wouldn’t be focus in my study and i would get bad grade in classes. :(
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
Ans:- Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. When Holden was in the cab, he kind of starts conversation with the taxi driver who’s name was Horowitz’. Holden says that Horowitz’ was much better taxi driver then the one he had before. After a while Holden asked him if he knows about the ducks in the Central park and his curiosity to know what happens with the ducks in the winter. The driver doesn’t answer on Holden’s question directly and he started telling him about the fish and what happens when they die. He asked Holden would mother nature take care of him in the winter if he was a fish or it would just let him die, Holden says that mother nature would help and Horowitz’ tells him that he is right and drives away. Holden was afraid if he keep talking and asking questions the driver would get crazy. Even though he wanted to have a long conversation and ask more questions, he had to hold back because the cab driver was impatient and was starting to get angry.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Ans:-Lillian Simmons (86-87)
She think that Holden likes her because she asked him if he has a date or not. She wanted to be friendly with Holden and she wants to know about him more.In page 87 she says, “Holden, come join us. Bring your drink”. She was trying to get in good with Holden.She is only doing that just because she thought that holden would tell old D.B. about it or he would tell his brother that he met her and she was nice.
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a child,I would like to be an adult,because I think adults are free,they could do everything they want or like.But I couldn’t be,I had to grow up step by step.
2.Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
The navy guy, Commander Blop (86-87)
In the club Ernie’s,Holden meets a navy guy,whose name is Commander Blop.The guy is a friend of his brother-D.B.'s friend.Holden doesn't want to say "Glad to meet you", when He has never met before.But he does is. Because he has to follow the rule of the life.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
The navy guy, Commander Blop (86-87)
The navy guy thinks Holden is a unlucky guy because Holden has to talk to Lillian in the crowded club.Commander doesn't like the girl-Lillian has a data with him.He feels angry because Liliian always asks Holden about D.B..He ,maybe think e is better than D.B,when Liliian is surprised about D.B.'s job.
Dear Jess
ReplyDeleteI agree with you.I think the girl-Liliian maybe still loves D.B.,SO she asks Holden questions about D.B..But I think Liliian is not a smart girl,because she asks questions when the person she data with is there.Do you agree?
Jean-Luc Antoine
ReplyDelete1.Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
It is when first came to high school in the US and in class teacher was asking me questions i didn’t answer not because i didn’t know English, it was because I was stress out, for me this was a new environment, I just panic and say nothing.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do. In the club Ernie’s,Holden meets a navy guy,whose name is Commander Blop.The guy is dating Lillian Simmons she once was with Holden brother D.B. Holden doesn't want to say "Glad to meet you", because he doesn’t when he says to person to a person he doesn’t know and a person which he has never met before.But he does is. Because he has to follow the rule of the life.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view. This is what Lillian Simmons think about Holden . ‘’ She think Holden is a nice guy and she wants to know about Holden. Lillian Simmons: Poor little Holden, glad to see you again. You grow up a lot. You may think that I am so bother,but I am not just say the things without thinking. She wants to know how Holden is doing, and specially his brother D.B.
1.Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteWhen i came in USA,i wanted to go in my country once in a month to visit my friends and relatives.But it’s not possible.I know that i can’t go once in a month to see them but i really wanted to go there.
2. The funny looking guy or girl (85) :
When Holden was in Ernie’s club, Some people whom he called “Funny looking guy and funny looking girl”, were sitting right to his left and they were having conversation. Holden was feeling bored and sorry for them.He was thinking that the guy doesn’t know how to treat a girl in the first date.He didn’t know how to make a date interesting because the boy was talking about football game in his date.Holden said that the girl was also funny looking.But he didn’t say anythning to them.
3. Lillian Simmons (86-87)
I think she likes him.She thinks that Holden in handsome and all.She also thinks,Holden is like a baby.She thinks like Holden likes her but actually he desn’t.When she saw him in hotel,she was like kind of excited and she told Holden to join with her and with his boyfriend.She was trying to be good with him.
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ReplyDelete1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDelete- I always wanted to get more then 80% average but i never get 80% and i felt very sad for me and
still i didn't get 80% average.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
-Holden takes a cab in order to get to Ernie. After a while Holden asked him if he knows about the ducks in the Central park. After a while Holden asked him if he knows about the ducks in the Central park.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
-I think she wants know about Holden because she think that Holden is good guy.And also she trying good with him so she can have him.
Rosa Medina
ReplyDeleteL5R-78
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
This was once on my birthday when I had gone to the beauty salon to get outwith my family to a party, but later I had a very strong headache that I went to bed a while to rest a little, but when I woke up was 2 am then we could not go anywhere and I got mad because no one had awakened me.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
When Holden with Horowitz in the car, there was many times that Holden didn’t tell to Horowitz about his real thinking. when Holden asked him about the ducks, he was going to angry.Then Holden stopped talk with him a while. In this sudden,he thought Horowitz is a man who easy get angry and just because of trifles. but Holden didn’t tell him about it.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Lillian Simmons was Holden’s brother ex girlfriend and she really like Holden she thinks Holden was a good boy and she always talk good about him and kind of care about him .Lillian felt good when she saw Holden after long time .And maybe she wanted Holden to tell his brother that he saw her and all.
Dear Progga,
ReplyDeleteI agree with you because also I think that Lillian Simmons likes Holden but unfortunately Holden does not like her.
Dear Jean Luc
ReplyDeleteI like your post because it’s interesting know which are the characteristics of Holden and Lillian and I can learn more about that.
Maria Celeste Cruz
ReplyDeleteMs :Mann
L5R_78
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
_ Yes, one time i wanted to go somewhere but i didn't want to hurt some person so i had to stay here with that person but its still hurts me that.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12.
LILLIAM SIMMONS (86-87)
Holden wanted to say: If you are so interested in my brother why you don't look for him don't ask me you can do things by you self you don't want to know me you just want to talk to me in case i talk to my brother so i can tell him that you where nice but no.
Lillian wanted to tell him: ooh if you knew that i type like you.That that's why i ask you if you had a date. but you are so dumb to understand girls.you leave in your own little world that's why i was with your brother.
CARMEN!
ReplyDelete1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
* i have this experience in my life, two days ago my best friend told me if i wanted go with her shopping but i really did not want because i don’t know sometimes i think that i am so strange i don’t trust people now, many times some people made me feel so sad with their actions. this made me feel so isolated because by my actitudes i am losing friends.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
3. Lillian Simmons (86-87)
I think she likes him.She thinks that Holden in handsome and all.She also thinks,Holden is like a baby.She thinks like Holden likes her but actually he desn’t.When she saw him in hotel,she was like kind of excited and she told Holden to join with her and with his boyfriend.She was trying to be good with him.
1.Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteIt is when first came to high school in the US and in class teacher was asking me questions i didn’t answer not because i didn’t know English, it was because I was stress out, for me this was a new environment, I just panic and say nothing.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do. In the club Ernie’s,Holden meets a navy guy,whose name is Commander Blop.The guy is dating Lillian Simmons she once was with Holden brother D.B. Holden doesn't want to say "Glad to meet you", because he doesn’t when he says to person to a person he doesn’t know and a person which he has never met before.But he does is. Because he has to follow the rule of the life.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view. This is what Lillian Simmons think about Holden . ‘’ She think Holden is a nice guy and she wants to know about Holden. Lillian Simmons: Poor little Holden, glad to see you again. You grow up a lot. You may think that I am so bother,but I am not just say the things without thinking. She wants to know how Holden is doing, and specially his brother D.B.
Dear Daniel,
ReplyDeleteI think the poster you and Lliyan made is so interesting. Holden is confused about the life, but he never try to tell his real thoughts to others. And even he talk to someone whom he just meets,like Horowit.
Dear Naing,Ye Htet and
ReplyDeleteMeira, Renan,
I think your post is interesting, because what the cab driver think when Holden asked him those question that you show is exactly right, he's really don't understand that the question Holden ask.
Dear Daniel,
ReplyDeletei like your comment about the cab driver Horowitz.Holden thinks Horowitz was a touchiest guy ,because he is very irritable. and Holden also is a phony man because he asked Horowitz the stupid question ,then made Horowitz became angry.
dear: jeancheng
ReplyDeletei like your post because i can see the different ways that you have to understand the story. and that's really good
Dear Fohameda,
ReplyDeleteI don't think that Lillian Simmons thought Holden likes her, I think she just interesting in the things about his brother, D.B, so she ask a lot of how his brother was.
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteLast year, my favourite soccer team (panathinaikos) was playing against Olympiakos for the play-offs. It was the season’s best match and I wouldn’t want to miss it at all costs! But, since time came, it was raining so my parents wouldn’t let me go. I felt pretty much overwhelmed at that time , that I didn’t talk to anybody for two days. It was such a painful experience for me. because I really love soccer.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
I chose Horowitz the cab driver on pg:81-83: Holden seems to like that person because he thinks he is a very nice guy. What he wanted to say to him was ask him whether he knew where the ducks (symbolise himself) went when it was winter.But, since the taxi-driver was very touchy, he stopped ‘’irritating him’’ and didn’t share his feelings and thoughts with him. The event: Holden asked Horowitz if he happened to know that, but he wouldn’t answer him. Holden felt pretty depressed at that time, and obviously (it is implied) he wanted to avoid talking with him in order to reduce the chances of them crashing their vehicle as the cab driver was driven crazy.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Horowitz’s point of view for Holden: That boy appears to be kind, but why doesn’t he act his age? Does he have psychological problems?I’d sooner not talk to him because who knows what his reaction will be. He asks me too many questions that are quite silly and that’s exactly the reason why I get so much irritated. They are not supposed to have an answer, for goodness sake! How does he expect me to give an answer to them? Who am I, actually? And I don’t even know him, how does he invite a stranger to drink a liquor with him? He must be either mad and crazy or something terrible must have happened to him recently and he can’t come to terms with that fact.
Dear Jess,
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, you have done an excellent job. Good for you! What I liked the most in your writing was the way you explained how Lilian might be thinking of Holden and his brother. I lerned that Lilian might not have been so pretty a girl as I thought she was . Thank you for helping me understand that.
Dear Mohammed,
Good work! Although I believe that your comment about Horowitz thinking that Holden was a stupid guy stirs up disagreement. I find that statement toi be completely misinformed. I’m sorry, but I do not really believe that all people have that bad view for minors just because they ask too many questions (even if they are a little bit toddler ones). Take me for example, I do not really think I would have said that.
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteWhen my mom was annoyed,i could not do something that i wanted to do.
For example,when i failed the test , i did not tell my mom because she was angry about that.And i felt very scared and afraid that mom’s annoyed expression.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
Ernie the piano player’s (83-84)
Situation: When i came in Ernie,the piano player was playing the piano.All the people ware lousy and shoving before he played.However,after he was playing,the whole people were silent.He made some mistakes while playing.He was putting all these dumb, show-offy ripples in the high notes.And when he finished,everybody was mad and crazy.They clapped their head off and laughed like the morons in the movies that is not funny.And the player also gave a humble,phony row.That’s killed Holden.
Feelings about the player: Holden felt that this is a very phony for the people who listened the music and laughed like hyenas in the movies.He was hate to the humble row.Also he felt sorry about the player when he finished because he did not know where he was wrong or right.
WHY: Because Holden thought he was old and poor that he did not want to say something sad that was bad for his job.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
Horowitz thought Holden liked a madman that was killed him.The question was confused him and he thought this is a crazy question because nobody would care about the wild ducks.That’s made him get sore about it.
Dear Rose:
ReplyDeleteI like your post because it's very interesting that you are angry with
people who don't wake up you that you can't go anywhere.And I don't think they did this on purpose because I think they want you to rest well .They are concerned with
you a lot.
Dear lu ping :
ReplyDeleteI like your post because I think you are a excellent child that your
parents are proud of.When your family was poor ,you hided your dream because you didn't want your parents worried and to work hard that they wanted to achieve you dream!You are my example.You are great!However,I think it's a pity that you cann't learn to play the piano because it's the best time to learn playing the piano when you are a child !
1. Think of a time that you wanted to do something but couldn’t or didn’t. Describe the situation and how you felt.
ReplyDeleteWhen my mom was annoyed,i could not do something that i wanted to do.
For example,when i failed the test , i did not tell my mom because she was angry about that.And i felt very scared and afraid that mom’s annoyed expression.
2. Holden takes a cab to the club Ernie's in Chapter 12. He has many experiences there where he doesn't do or say what he is thinking and feeling. Pick one of the characters or objects below, and write what Holden wanted to do or say to this person, but didn’t. Describe the situation, how he felt, and why he didn't do what he wanted to do.
Ernie the piano player’s (83-84)
Situation: When i came in Ernie,the piano player was playing the piano.All the people ware lousy and shoving before he played.However,after he was playing,the whole people were silent.He made some mistakes while playing.He was putting all these dumb, show-offy ripples in the high notes.And when he finished,everybody was mad and crazy.They clapped their head off and laughed like the morons in the movies that is not funny.And the player also gave a humble,phony row.That’s killed Holden.
Feelings about the player: Holden felt that this is a very phony for the people who listened the music and laughed like hyenas in the movies.He was hate to the humble row.Also he felt sorry about the player when he finished because he did not know where he was wrong or right.
WHY: Because Holden thought he was old and poor that he did not want to say something sad that was bad for his job.
3. Now pick one person from the list above, and write from his/her point of view. Describe what he/she thinks/feels about Holden or about his/her life. You will have to make an inference about this, because we only read from Holden's point of view.
Horowitz’ the cab driver (81-83)
Horowitz thought Holden liked a madman that was killed him.The question was confused him and he thought this is a crazy question because nobody would care about the wild ducks.That’s made him get sore about it.
a. What does bullying mean to you?
ReplyDeleteFor me bullying means to intimidate someone to make him uncomfortable.
b. Have you ever been a victim of bullying? How did it make you feel?
Yes, i have it makes me feel nervous.
c. How is bullying a human rights issue?
it is by abusing human rights . it makes many people cry and make them feel unsafe.
d. What steps can you personally take to help those who are bullied
When you finish, please post your response as a comment on our blog. After you post your response, read 3 other students' responses and write a response to them.
i can talk to someone like people in the dean office or police to stop that and punish who is doing that.